Pageflame

Mana cost: R
Type: Instant
Rules: ~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player Mindstorm (When you cast this spell, put a copy of it onto the stack for each card put into your graveyard from your hand this turn)
Power / toughness: /
Latest votes: +2 / −0

Comments (13)

Is this completely broken at 2 damage? It's hard to Mindstorm for more than a single additional copy so that would put it at 4 for 2, better than Incinerate but you had to work for it. It would combo with looting charm (also a common) for 6 damage for 3 mana. But given that that is the combo rather than the normal outcome it seems better than 3 damage for 3 mana (i.e. worse than Incinerate) being the unusual but doable outcome. Could up the cost to 2R? But I like it low.

Thomas Baker · 2012-06-02 07:41:01

This might make it totally busted since you can spread it around multiple creatures and Mindstorming at least once should be pretty easy in a red deck.

Kieran Symington · 2012-06-02 07:48:01

Should it cost more and do 2, or cost R and do 1? 3 damage is about the top end if it does 1 so I'd say we can safely cost that at R.

Thomas Baker · 2012-06-02 08:10:03

I think R for 1 damage would be fine and it makes it more playable with spells that loot as well as creatures.

Kieran Symington · 2012-06-02 08:47:39

This seemed to be "too much work/mana for the big reward". Can we push it anyhow?

Thomas Baker · 2012-06-03 22:12:38

Howabout we revisit the 1r 2 damage version?

Simon O'Keeffe · 2012-06-03 22:19:42

This worked well last night so we're leaving it as is for now. 2 damage definitely seems like it might be broken.

Thomas Baker · 2012-06-06 08:14:35

Just realised I might have slightly misplayed Mindstorm last night. In a turn where I cast Looting Charm, discarding 2 cards, and then Raid the Library discarding another 2, I Pageflamed for 7. (4 discards, 2 spells in gy, and 1 from Pageflame). On second read I shouldn't have counted the spells that went to the graveyard from the stack?

Simon O'Keeffe · 2012-06-14 11:50:22

It should only count discards, not spells you cast. Aside from your rampant cheating I still wonder if this is a bit good. Maybe restrict to creatures only?

Kieran Symington · 2012-06-14 12:12:41

That's how Louis wanted to play it, too. I wonder if it should be "spells you cast and cards you discard" or if that just makes it more broken than Storm and kind of ridiculous.

Thomas Baker · 2012-06-14 12:17:07

No really interested in weakening this from the as-printed version. It's a key card!

Thomas Baker · 2012-06-14 12:19:16

This is very good but it's a key card and we like it. I think? I didn't enjoy "kill your guy, kill your guy, oh and I have one spare to your face" last night but it was probably fun on the other side of the table!

Thomas Baker · 2012-06-26 07:51:22

This was really awesome against multiple 1-toughness guys, but really terrible when one sat in my hand against Simon's board of 4-toughness monsters. This mostly seems to do 1-3 damage, which is totally fine.

Kieran Symington · 2012-06-26 08:23:18

Revision history (4)

Date	Person	Name	Cost	Type	Rules
2012-06-12 10:07:12	Simon O'Keeffe	Pageflame	R	Instant	~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player Mindstorm (When you cast this spell, put a copy of it onto the stack for each card put into your graveyard from your hand this turn)
2012-06-02 08:50:35	Thomas Baker	Pageflame	R	Instant	~ deals 1 damage to target creature or player Mindstorm - When you cast this spell, put a copy of it onto the stack for each card put into your graveyard from your hand this turn
2012-06-02 07:41:01	Thomas Baker	Pageflame	1R	Instant	~ deals 2 damage to target creature or player Mindstorm - When you cast this spell, put a copy of it onto the stack for each card put into your graveyard from your hand this turn
2012-05-26 15:27:37	Kieran Symington	Pageflame	1R	Instant	Pageflame deals 1 damage to target creature or player Mindstorm - When you cast this spell, put a copy of it onto the stack for each card put into your graveyard from your hand this turn